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Anonymous commented:Could the use of "crazy" perhaps be because it is difficult to separate the act from the person? If the perpetrator was suffering from a mental illness, I'd hesitate to refer to him as "evil", as his actions may have largely been dictated by that illness. The crime, on the other hand, may be more accurately described as "evil". (Of course, IANAD, and I largely don't understand mental illness and how it shapes one's perceptions of the world, nor how much it overrides an understanding of right and wrong, or in this case good and evil.) The answer may be something else entirely. Perhaps the use of the word "crazy" is just a reflection of the need to understand why someone would do something of this nature. "Crazy" does have an element that implies mental instability, which at least for now seems like a more easily accepted explanation for why this happened. - Maraon Thu Apr 19 12:05:00 2007 |
sasha commented: This is something that I've been thinking about a lot over the past few days, mostly because it has parallels with my own work about mad people who commit violent crimes in the Middle Ages. What I find so interesting, regardless of whether or not Cho Seung-hui was, in fact, mentally ill, is the way that the media (and our society in general) seeks to create an acceptable and comprehensible narrative that allows us to "understand" why this happened, and the way that this so often ends up being expressed in terms of mental illness. I also find the recasting of the past so fascinating, as people re-evaluate all their interactions with Cho Seung-hui, seeking "signs". A BBC report notes that the "signs" were all there but no one acted on them. But, of course, the "signs" are actually relatively difficult to read without the benefit of hindsight. If every student who ever wrote "disturbing" fiction in a creative writing class, or stalked other students, or had counseling suggested to them, or were suspected of being suicidal was in some way restrained, that would surely be incredibly prejudicial over-reacting. I am struck by this also because my advisor once noted that studies show that only 1% of mentally ill people are capable of committing crimes, especially crimes of this magnitude, because most people who suffer from mental illness can't plan well enough. Again, I'm not trying to argue that there was nothing "wrong" with Cho Seung-hui. I'm just interested in the way that these narratives get created, and the way that we pick up on those elements of his life that help us explain his actions, and ignore those that don't. I find our need for these explanatory narratives fascinating, but I also fear that they can become dangerous, particularly when they influence policy.on Thu Apr 19 12:58:19 2007 |
Anonymous commented: I also find the recasting of the past so fascinating, as people re-evaluate all their interactions with Cho Seung-hui, seeking "signs".on Thu Apr 19 13:41:51 2007 |
Nikki commented: Generally speaking, I have a problem calling someone mentally ill just because they committed a horrible act. At least, mentally ill in so much as it is a generalized blanket media term. And looking for "signs" has never done anything to really prevent a repeat of actions that I've ever seen documented. And it isn't because the "troubled" kids didn't think about bringing guns to school until Columbine... I remember being on the school bus with a guy who brought a handgun with him. And it still goes on. You want to talk about signs... I meet several of those signs... minus stalking someone (and let's face it, anyone who's written chick lit falls into the disturbed writings category--and possibly the stalking one, too, but I digress, badly)... and I've thought about it... could I do something like this--what would it take for me to snap like that... and I come up blank. As do most people, I suspect; which brings us back to square one--what are the signs and symptoms so we can lock people up before they do anything at all... because that is where this is going. Let's ship them off to a relatively small island in the Atlantic before they MIGHT do or say something. I can't think of any precedent we might have for doing such a thing... it goes against our very concepts of Constitutionality, but I'm sure there is a way to circumvent it.on Thu Apr 19 22:08:22 2007 |
Anonymous commented: I was talking to this guy today and the idea of gun control came up regarding the Virginia Tech case. He said, predictably, "guns don't kill people, people kill people." He then said "I have a gun and I don't kill people." He then added, "I also have a permit to carry my gun on me concealed. I took a class to get the permit." I suddenly felt really disturbed but asked curiously (I mean, the guy might have had his gun) "Why do you need to carry a concealed weapon?" He answered, also amicably, "I can't carry it everywhere. I can't have in a stadium with more than 2,500 people in it. Also, I can only carry it with me to pick up my own children from school, I can't have it with me when I am picking up somebody else's children." And my head is still spinning from those comments. AHHH!!! -Lindsayon Sat Apr 21 00:52:09 2007 |
Nikki commented: And here I thought you had to have a really good reason for getting a concealed weapons permit... of course, I don't have kids, so you might need one when you do and have to pick them up at school--who knew?!on Sun Apr 22 17:20:47 2007 |